In the thread responding to this video (Climate I: Is The Debate Over?, by The Agenda with Steve Paikin)
a person named Erik Gloor, gave a disturbing reply:
@Ludwig van El I have no idea what you’re saying. There is no debate. Man-made climate change is real. Trust scientists at organizations like NASA. Trusting oil companies to tell you their products don’t harm the environment is like trusting tobacco companies that cigarettes don’t cause cancer. Anything less is pure folly.
Trusting politicians to tell the truth and to serve the people, is like asking a volcano to keep hold your ice cream cone for you: you know it simply cannot work, nobody has a rich enough fantasy to imagine such contradictory concepts. You want scientific proof: the 2 Stans: https://ludwigvanel.wordpress.com/2017/07/18/2-stans/ show that people are incapable of handling power, neither exerted over them (they have the unfortunate tendency to follow orders) nor exerting power over others. This is also called (by Hobbes, iirc) homo homini lupus est: man is a wolf to his fellow man, therefore you do not give him power over you/his fellow man.
If you insist on thinking politicians are angels, then riddle me this: how come in Dutch politics, the parties that make most noise about CC have also been the ones that tried their hardest to keep traffic jams intact -> keeping CO2 emissions high, since 1966 (52 years by now!). That is treason! But, when I looked into suing them for treason over that, the only laws I found that related to treason, protected the government from the people! Comrade, can you believe that?
Angels also do not kill/torture people for, being born in another country(the #4thReich does so all the time, for most of the time since WW2 (heard of Guantanamo Bay?), oh, and the WMDs were also real, right? A politician said so, so it must be true.
How would you explain the warming pause? (rising CO2, steady temperature).
Especially shocking when you think: Hey, there were those Kyoto and Copenhagen etc. treaties. Surely, they must have reduced CO2 or at least stopped the rise, by now? Of course not, they did not serve to reduce CO2, but only to punish the people for the politician’s refusal to reduce emissions (recall Obama? “CC is real!” Yeah, said the dude of 7 wars in 8 years, 1 Nobel peace prize and 0 days of peace. Do you have any idea how much CO2 a squadron of F-22s emits? Plus the tanks etc…